Wow. All anger and no bottles to ship it out. In any case the PF game is up and running pretty well so far. It's not up at the moment but to see the old EE the way it was and was loved by all seems to work. As far as why it died originally. Yea, not going there. Focus on what is here and now and let the past go.

When I joined up with Earth Eternal, it was during EER. I had kept a close eye on the game prior (Sparkplay Media), but never could convince myself to play the game. I read the forums daily, and understood the issues people had with EER. Joining Earth Eternal in 0.8.6 (Gref's server), has really gave me a lot of ideas of how the game was during it's ownership with Sparkplay Media.

Look, we all know EER was an absolute failure. Piggypops dropped the ball when he pushed the game out in beta and:
-Facebook to play the game
-Models removed
-Memory leaks
-Unfinished UI
-Quest tracker issues
-Moderaters that lied to the community, and closed threads like no tomorrow
-Not listening to the players
-Piggypops dissapearing for weeks, then coming back and saying he isn't the community manager anymore, and no one was going to step up
-Calling the whole "furry" thing as a reason why the game failed
-Promising rewards for leveling up in the beta, once the game is out of beta (game never got out of beta)

Man, the list just keeps on going! But that's the past, as many people have stated. The future is bright, with almost a fully functional Earth Eternal server up and running by our community member, Gref. It's exciting, and who knows what the future could hold for this game. Maybe it will kick off and become equally as popular as the original EE from back in the day.

Oh man! i so hope your right. i tried eer for a while but the whole mess was just depressing
as far as the "Furries ruined EE goes what a crock... way to blame it on the fans if everyone had just shut the lleh up about the so callede "furry problem" the stigma would have been forgotten

Dog bless Grethnefar!

What ruined Sparkplay Media (thus ruining Earth Eternal), was highlighted in detail by our own forum member, Greth. The company had a falling out, and pretty much screwed themselves. It is to be noted that Redpoint Ventures and Prism Ventureworks both threw 4 million dollars in the pot, to fund the game for Piggypops and his staff. The result was a few months later, the game out of funds. While some can argue that there wasn't enough players in-game to buy the cash shop items, to provide profit for the company... For 4 million dollars, anyone should be able to get decent advertisements on Google Ads, YouTube, etc. It doesn't "just" take a loyal fan-base to make a community; often times it really does take advertising the game (your product).

The game was tailored to people who wanted to play anthropomorphic characters, yes. Players that called the game a "furry game", really didn't ruin the company from making profit and the game becoming popular. What really ruined it was the poor management of the entire title. Piggypops blatantly sold the game off to a company who didn't want him in the picture, lied multiple times to the community about the future and present status of the game, stepped down as the game developer and forum community manager, and gave up - letting the new company close the game for the final time.

Ultimately, this information does have merit to the thread. The game is being pushed out again, by our community member, Greth. When he has it working very well, the entire forums could be the main hub and interaction out of game, for players of his server. What I've stated above, is really just background information, leading up to present.

Seriously, guys. This is ridiculous, arguing over EEF and why it failed. It failed and that's a fact. Can't we just leave it in the past and chill out and go sip lemonade and hug ponies together or something?

True nuff:)

Wow, been gone for too long.

Okay, first, no, EE was not a game targeted towards furries, but there were a lot of furries playing it. There are a lot of furries on this forum still. Not everyone here is a furry, and we respect that, however the common theme among most EE players was that we liked playing animals as characters. Sure, there were some players that preferred the fur-less races instead, but as a whole, a major draw to the game was the variety in races to choose from.

Due to this, the forum will be slanted towards people that like anthropomorphic characters. Not furries, per se, but just a gathering of gamers that like games similar to EE. Every game listed (or will be, in smaller forums) is similar in some way, and as I stated before, there will be furry-specific forums for the less tame topics that might put off non-furs. If you've been on this forum for any length of time, you've already seen a lot of chat between furries. You've already endured furry chat, even if you, yourself, are not part of that culture. You'd have to be okay with a certain degree of furry discussion, to begin with, to still be on these forums.

Grethnefar's revival of the old EE is awesome, and everyone's very happy about that, but EE in itself does not hold enough of a draw to warrant having a forum fully dedicated to it. This is why we are branching out; people will be able to find players from other games that they may be interested in, or suggest games to others when they grow bored of whichever one they're currently playing. It is meant to be somewhat of an anthropomorphic hub for gamers. There are many that enjoy animalistic races, furry or not.

And no, Jack does not host this site for profit. It's actually quite a money sink right now, as it makes virtually no money at all. It would be nice if it could actually make enough to pay for its upkeep.

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As a general note, we fully welcome any and all feedback or suggestions you guys may have, but full-on bashing the site or the direction it's headed in is not constructive at all. If you are that repulsed by furries, you would not still be lurking here, plain and simple. The site isn't going to change all that much in terms of content. There is a reason all of us loved EE, especially in the Sparkplay era; for the same reasons, some may like other games, such as the ones Jack has already put forums up for. The focus of the site may be broadening, but it's a good thing. EE is, for the most part, dead. A lot of us either have already gone to other games, will soon, or are looking for other games to try. Having a forum that focuses on the main draw to EE, yet connects it to other games, will overall be a much happier and active forum.

As for WoW, Jack'll think on that one and decide whether to put it up or not, since some of you have voiced concerns over having a WoW forum.